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Let's be realistic

  

by: Blue Girl

Tue Dec 15, 2009 at 09:49:42 AM CST


I don't know about you, but I am not accustomed to getting everything I want. If I did, I would live in a high-rise penthouse in a doorman building in Midtown Manhattan instead of a brick walk-up in Midtown KC. Global poverty and hunger would be eradicated, universal suffrage would be a reality, education would be a human right, cancer would be cured, AIDS would be wiped out, chocolate would be a miracle diet and we would all get ponies and donuts. Also.

Here in the real world, however, you pays your money and you takes your choices and the world is far from idyllic.

So I do what sane people do. I play the cards I'm dealt.

If I were designing a healthcare system, it would look nothing like what we are going to end up with. For starters, if I were designing it, insurance companies would be obliterated and we would all be going into a single payer system on 1 January.

But that damned, pesky reality keeps rearing it's ugly head.

If we did what I want, that imaginary magic wand would have to be capable of conjuring a couple of million nurses and allied health professionals as well as a few hundred thousand physicians. That was one of my concerns from the get-go and I brought it up in conference calls with the White House and I have discussed it face-to-face with Claire McCaskill.

Realistically, we don't have the providers to deliver universal coverage overnight. In fact, if we went that direction, the fears that the right have been projecting about waiting times and delays would be a stark reality and yes, the quality of care we currently have would suffer immensely.

There is also another reality to consider...those on our side actually care. The fact that 44,000 people die for lack of insurance every year matters to us. To the psychopaths in opposition, they don't. They could not care less about the poor people in need that will be helped by ANY reform because they don't write checks, neither to candidates nor to insurance companies who write checks to campaign coffers, so as far as the republicans are concerned, they can fuck off and die. Literally. They are already dead weight, so they might as well be dead.

The bottom line is that the current incarnation of the GOP is not an entity that can be negotiated with in good faith. But unlike them, we are not all hot to fight our battles with bullets instead of ballots.

Instead of looking at this as an epic fail on the part of the Democrats, I am looking at it as laying the cornerstone for a magnificent structure that will take time to complete. If anyone thinks passing the legislation currently being deliberated held hostage in the Senate will be the end of healthcare reform, I have a bridge in lower Manhattan to sell you.

Instead of quitting - which is what the anti-reform idiots want us to do - we pass this less-than-perfect bill, and we immediately start working on the next phase of reform in earnest, which will of necessity need to include training programs for new providers.

Here is my idea. Go ahead and vent. Scream. Make that voice heard. Yell as long and as loud as you want. That is how they know that what they have done so far ain't nowhere near enough. Get behind primary challengers for Blue Dogs. But for gods sake, don't abandon the process and stop voting. That is just stupid and makes you at least as significant a part of the problem as the teabagger morons.  

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Actually, I think I'm being realistic (0.00 / 0)
For me, it's not just what we got or didn't get.  We GOT just about what I expected to get so this is not disappointement in a massively flawed bill that, not to be contrary or try to pick any fights here, that I don't see as any cornerstone for anything except huge increases in profits for the insurance companies, in many cases at taxpayer expense.  

Democrats are already touting it as some kind of "victory" for them simply because they got a bill passed that "reformed" health care.  I just don't see them as willing to take up the fight again next year or the year after to strengthen it or to go back after the stuff they left behind.    

Again, don't get me wrong.  I'm not giving up and I'm not going to lie down quietly and wait to die.  That is not, nor has it ever been what my over the top rants have been about.

My concern is with the hypocrisy of a group of people who, with the exception of a relatively few true progressives,  made a whole bunch of promises and dangled a whole lot of carrots in front of us and then didn't stand up and fight for a single one of them.  I'm talking about Democrats who vote like Republicans and so called leaders who don't have the balls to forge a consensus within their own party.  I'm talking about the tyranny of the flipping minority which I've lived with here in California for so long it seems normal if not natural.

In my humble opinion, much of what has happened went into the bag of foregone conclusions even when the lying thieves were selling us something entirely different.  I don't believe that the vast majority of the whores in Congress ever seriously considered single payer at all and that few of them seriously considered any kind of strong public option as a viable option.

Every time we managed to get someone's ear, we would hear that the public option was still alive, don't give up the fight.  Then, last week, when it had become inescapably   apparent that there would be no public option we were handed the expansion of Medicare as a sop... I said then that it wasn't going to fly and it only took a week for Holy Joe to make damned sure of that.

I'm still looking at what the bill has come down to, trying to figure out just what it is that the people I live among supposedly got from it.  I'll continue to look at it to see what else is taken out of it and what it consists of if and when it is finally passed.  I suspect we'll see some more concessions made to Lieberman and the Dinos before it winds up carved in stone.

And the Democrats had better hope there's something recognizably beneficial to the majority of poor people in this country.  Newt, the Prince of Reptilia, has already said that once they are back in power... not so far fetched at all given the performance of this administration and this Democrat controlled congress so far... they're simply going to repeal everything anyway.  Except the part that says everyone has to have insurance, anyway.

Again, I hope you're 100% unequivocally right in this.  Never have I wanted so much to be wrong about a situation but also never have I had the feeling that we are well and truly boned and when the anesthesia begins to wear off, we're going to wake up and realize it.

The Tea Party and the radical Goopers have succeeded in the establishment of the rule of the minority in the United States and I simply don't see enough Frankens or Graysons to do anything about it, no matter how well intentioned, honest and upright they are.



The few with so much will steal the little of so many that the many little people will have nothing left.  Fascism pure and simple.


Well (0.00 / 0)
Try reading this:
http://eh.net/encyclopedia/art...

"In the part of this universe that we know there is great injustice, and often the good suffer, and often the wicked prosper, and one hardly knows which of those is the more annoying."

- Bertrand Russell -


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I think (hope?)... (1.00 / 1)
I think the exchanges will make a huge difference, as will the rules about recissions and bans on denying coverage for preexisting conditions will be wildly popular and the impetus for more, better changes.

But I have always been nervous about the potential for a 'self-fulfilling prophecy' about waiting times and rationing if we brought all the uninsured in at once without the providers to deliver the care.

Or maybe I am just a cockeyed optimist? I don't think so, but that possibility can't be discounted. I am pretty damned content with my lot in life.

When you get raptured, can I have your car?


And you're a lot better at analyzing (0.00 / 0)
and drawing rational conclusions from available data than I am.  I'm not rational and have no desire to be.  I'm just a pissed off old fart who goes off at the drop of a tea party hat and wants nothing more than to leave turds in their cup.

A good dose of reality such as you present on a daily basis does me good now and then but I'm probably not going to mend my ways significantly in the relatively short time I have left on this mortal coil.  

I'll still sit and daydream about slowly choking the life out of those that put profits or personal gain ahead of simple humanity every time and as long as I'm allowed to I'll still rant and rail about the people I feel warrant being ranted and railed about.

The few with so much will steal the little of so many that the many little people will have nothing left.  Fascism pure and simple.


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Actually... (4.00 / 1)
I think my MAIN problem is that we even have a for profit health care system in the first place.  

The few with so much will steal the little of so many that the many little people will have nothing left.  Fascism pure and simple.

[ Parent ]
Ding! Ding! Ding! (0.00 / 0)
We have a winner!

That we have a for-profit system is the real problem.

As for the ranting and the railing - that is something I could probably spend a little more time on instead of being so analytical and pragmatic sometimes. We balance one another nicely, I would say. :)

When you get raptured, can I have your car?


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It was illegal (0.00 / 0)
The US had the Blues in 1930-1940 - Mutual Fund insurance companies that wanted the largest base of individuals enrolled to spread the risk. Making a profit on health care (as opposed to not-for-profit, a mechanism that allowed a mutual fund to cut dividends or refund overpaid dividends when the fiscal year ended and the actual tally gave a final cost for that fiscal year) was always illegal and immoral - until certain private clinics provided "nice discrete" places for wealthy families to send their daughters who found themselves "in the family way" without a sperm donor bound by marriage to the delicate flower.

This private clinic business also extended to "snake pits" for mentally ill - and their malfeasance fostered the first of the state hospitals for the mentally ill - to eliminate the horrors of private warehouses.

It wasn't until Richard Nixon and Henry Kaiser came up with the for-profit HMO that we started down this disgusting profiteering off of others suffering.

Contrary to popular belief, doctors were not always wealthy (and, many aren't today) - and most hospitals were non-profit or not-for-profit entities paid for by the Roman Catholic Church, donations from the Shriners, Danny Thomas, Jerry Lewis, corporate benefactors who paid for hospital wings.....

Then the bastards in insurance - republicans all - came up with a way to extract more money from the great population of the USA - changing mutual fund insurance companies into stock fund insurance companies.  Not for profit - poof, for profit.  

This has been the US standard for 39 years and here we sit, with one schmuck in the Senate trying to be has venal as Huey Long in just a few years.  Fuck Joe and the Insurance Company employees (all of them) with a chainsaw, gently!

"In the part of this universe that we know there is great injustice, and often the good suffer, and often the wicked prosper, and one hardly knows which of those is the more annoying."

- Bertrand Russell -


[ Parent ]
So I do what sane people do. I play the cards I'm dealt. (0.00 / 0)
That's the attitude of Thomas Jefferson, George Washington, Ben Franklin, Aaron Burr, Adams, Alexander Hamilton, Button Gwinnett & John Hancock.

Yep, they were sane and played the cards they were dealt.

No, wait one minute! They revolted and raised hell.  They did not go quietly into oblivion.  

Time to start revolting.

"In the part of this universe that we know there is great injustice, and often the good suffer, and often the wicked prosper, and one hardly knows which of those is the more annoying."

- Bertrand Russell -


Good luck (0.00 / 1)
...with that whole 'armed rebellion' thing. I give ya about a day and a half, then an air strike gets called in and the homegrown insurgency is toast. Literally. And that concludes our discussion of armed rebellion. It ain't happening. Not with my help, anyway. I don't take up arms against my fucking government or associate with those who might.

Besides that, it isn't so far gone that anyone needs to blow up the Fed or a national monument. Especially since there is one of each just a four or five minute stroll from my house.

 

When you get raptured, can I have your car?


SIT-INS / call-ins / email & fax bombs (0.00 / 0)
STOP TRAFFIC in the CAPITOL.

Put people into constituent offices in home states.  Disrupt the status quo.

Make the comfortable - UNcomfortable.

LBJ didn't much care for the chant: "Hey, hey LBJ, how many kids did you kill today?"

That's revolution.  

Peaceful civil disobedience.  Read up a bit on the Jaines and how Gandhi and MLK adopted their non-violent ways.

Of course, JUST LIKE THE NATIONAL GUARD BASTARDS IN OHIO, we will lose some people to the Christian Air Force we have allowed to fester and grow at the Academy.  REFUTE THAT!  Better still, explain how to fix it. You know the inside.  I'm for declaring them terrorists and deporting them to the North Pole - about 10 years from now they'll be treading water.

The military will kill civilians in the USA and it has already happened - just wait until the 22,000,000 Bush emails get analyzed.  The reports will be right there.  WE HAD MILITARY MURDERS IN IRAQ - what makes the US Citizen immune?  NOTHING.  

"In the part of this universe that we know there is great injustice, and often the good suffer, and often the wicked prosper, and one hardly knows which of those is the more annoying."

- Bertrand Russell -


[ Parent ]
Okay (0.00 / 0)
But in this climate, with teabaggers doing phony die-ins in Senate offices and swarming to the National Mall on a regular basis, how do you top them and not look even more ridiculous. Our enemy is doing something stupid. I am letting them and in no hurry to upstage them with a left-wingnut version.

As to the chants at LBJ - good job driving him from office and giving us Nixon, and a worst escalation than Johnson would have launched, including bombing raids across the border. Seeing as how some of my earliest memories are of funerals to bury a couple of favorite cousins, one from each side of the family, and an uncle on my mom's side. I don't take any decision lightly because I know the real import of the decisions a commander made.

As to the Academy, no argument, and some of my earliest posts are on that topic. But Mikey Weinstein has better answers than I do.  

When you get raptured, can I have your car?


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