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UPDATED with Part 2: Real News: US Missile Deal Enrages Russia

by: edger

Sat Aug 16, 2008 at 11:36:28 AM CDT

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On Saturday we saw Journalist Eric Margolis talk with Real News CEO Paul Jay about the question has the dangerous situation in the Caucasus fomented by the neocons now taken on a possibly unstoppable momentum of its own towards war between the US and Russia?

Today the interview with Margolis continues as a Russian general threatens Poland over the US/Poland missile deal. Russian rhetoric includes threat of a nuclear attack on Poland should the US provocations continue and build to a crisis point.

August 17, 2008 - 6 min 24 sec
Russian General threatens Poland over missile deal
US missile deal enrages Russia (Part 2)

Russian President Dimitri Medvedev stated on Friday that Poland's agreement to accept a US missile defense system target his country. Washington claims the defense shield is aimed at blocking attacks by rogue nations. These developments follow the recent conflict between Russia, and Georgia.

edger :: UPDATED with Part 2: Real News: US Missile Deal Enrages Russia
Real News: US Missile Deal Enrages Russia (Part 1)

On Friday we saw how following the Bush/neocon encouraged Georgian attacks on South Ossetia a rapidly developing Russia Asia cooperation has become nightmare for US Hawks, but is it a nightmare of their purposeful choosing?

Late yesterday afternoon the Associated Press reported that...

Russia warned Poland on Friday that it is exposing itself to attack - even a nuclear one - by accepting a U.S. missile interceptor base on its soil, delivering Moscow's strongest language yet against the plan.

American and Polish officials stuck firmly by their deal, signed Thursday, for Poland to host a system that Washington says is meant to block missile attacks by rogue nations like Iran.

Moscow is convinced the base is aimed at Russia's missile force, however, and the deal comes as relations already are strained over the fighting between Russia and U.S.-allied Georgia over the separatist Georgian region of South Ossetia.

"Poland, by deploying (the system) is exposing itself to a strike - 100 percent," Gen. Anatoly Nogovitsyn, the deputy chief of staff of Russia's armed forces, was quoted by the Interfax news agency as saying.

He noted Russia's military doctrine sanctions the use of nuclear weapons "against the allies of countries having nuclear weapons if they in some way help them." Nogovitsyn said that would include elements of any strategic deterrence system, according to Interfax.

Russian President Dmitry Medvedev said the deal "absolutely clearly demonstrates what we had said earlier - the deployment has the Russian Federation as its target."

Has the dangerous situation in the Caucasus fomented by the neocons now taken on a possibly unstoppable momentum of its own towards war between the US and Russia?

Journalist Eric Margolis talks with Real News CEO Paul Jay...

August 16, 2008 - 5 min 14 sec

Eric Margolis: It's like August, 1914 - a movement of great powers towards war

With the signing of an agreement between Washington and Warsaw to erect a missile defence system in Poland, echoes of the cold war between Russia and the United States are hard to ignore. The agreement comes hot on the heels of the conflict between Russia and Georgia.

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We now have a new cold war (0.00 / 0)
to provide new markets for the MIC weapons manufacturers.

Will it stay "cold", or heat up beyond control?


We are not un-retiring (4.00 / 1)
to win it for 'em again.  We did it once, and we did it right, god-damnit.  Not our fault that these idiots couldn't keep it won.  

When you get raptured, can I have your car?

Unbelievable (4.00 / 1)
Doesn't this sort of treaty require approval for the Senate?  Or is that wishful thinking on my part?
And WTF is Poland thinking?

Who knows. (0.00 / 0)
They have been in negotiations for this for years. Poland apparently finally demanded security and defense guarantees from Bush so that if Russia attacks Poland the US has to intervene. Bush agreed.

The missiles from Iran that Bush says this ABM system is to defend against do not have the range to reach Poland from Iran.

It will be as if Russia based nuclear missiles in Cuba capable of reaching the US in a few minutes and said they were ABM's to defend against missiles from some other country that does not have missiles capable of reaching Cuba. It would be an extremely provocative and aggressive act and would probably force the US to attack the bases in Cuba, forcing Russia to launch them at the US to avoid them being destroyed.  


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